City Living is the most glaringly problematic pack thus far in The Sims 4
If you were to ask any simmer why they love The Sims, they would most likely tell you because of the freedom it allows them to do whatever they want. Whether it’s creating sims, building lots, or living out their sim’s lives. It’s the freedom, the creative abilities, the customization. This has always been the philosophy of the Sims series and why players have always come back, series after series, game after game.
That is, until Sims 4 City Living came along. The initial announcement showed off impressive apartments, cultural events, many returning activities from past games in the series, it seems like a really promising expansion in terms of deep gameplay, something Sims 4 has sorely been missing since its release two years ago. Then came the finer details of the pack through tweets and forum posts by the Gurus. One tweet the fans hard. This tweet right here:
As if that wasn’t a big enough shock to the playerbase. Enough of a kick to the shins to builders. Enough of a warning sign for players to head for the hills. We were then double whammied with this follow up tweet:
So not only are players barred from building their own apartments, but they’re also barred from adding apartments to any of the other worlds in the game, past or future. I’ve played Sims since the very beginning. I own every game released. Never have I seen something so against the philosophy of the Sims than this. All throughout the life of the Sims series we’ve always been able to create every single type of lot introduced. Even when shells were introduced in Sims 3 we were still able to create our own innards of them. We could make our own apartments in Sims 3 Late Night. We could build our own performance venues in Sims 3 Showtime. We could build our own interactive classrooms in Sims 3 University Life.
No matter what they introduced, they always found a way to do it in such a way that they stuck to their vision, but also allowed us to create our vision as well. City Living goes completely against this. The Sims Team stuck to their vision all right, but they removed any and all chances that we could stick to ours as well. They tried to merely write it off as a worthwhile decision because they’re so unique and fun and they “look better this way.” I don’t know about you, but I’d much rather be able to build my own apartments and put them in whatever world I want rather than have “pretty shells.”
The fact of the matter is, no matter how fun this new apartment system may be, it will get boring quickly. It’ll get repetitive. It’ll get stale. No matter how fun they are, the apartments in City Living are minimal. We’re only going to get a handful because each world in Sims 4 never has many lots available. And what we get is it for the entirety of Sims 4. We can’t make them ourselves. We can’t download player made ones from the gallery. None will ever come in future packs as it’s an expansion-exclusive feature. So while they may be fun and exciting when the game first comes out, just know that they’re all we’re going to get, forever. So once you get bored of the available apartments, that’s it. Forever.
After watching the latest livestream for City Living, I’m even more confused as to why we can’t build our own apartments, or what they even mean by that phrase now. Penthouses are literally regular lots of any type (residential, club, park, etc.) on top of a giant world object no different than if they were placed on any other world lot. We can build anything on them, and we can download lots from the gallery to place on them. So clearly these don’t function as apartments, they’re just houses really high in the world.
The brownstone they showed off looked like it functioned exactly like the apartments in Sims 2. By that, I mean it had legitimate apartments and families you could visit, albeit after going through a loading screen instead of random sims popping out after knocking on the door like Sims 3. If an expansion from 2008, made for a base game made in 2004, could give us legit apartments that we could build ourselves, how is it that an expansion in 2016 for a base game made in 2014 can’t? It’s nonsense. I’d really like to see the inner workings of these lots so I can understand why exactly we can’t build our own because they look exactly like normal lots in Sims 4 and normal apartment lots in Sims 2, that we could build. I have so many questions after that livestream.
This is an extremely problematic sign for things to come. The team clearly has no regard for the philosophy of the Sims series. They have no regard for the freedom of the player. They’re going to continue making the game however they want, no matter how much it limits the player. We saw warning signs of this in Get Together when we couldn’t change the lot type of the Von Haunte Estate, then again in Dine Out when our sims were only allowed to hire employees, they couldn’t cook and wait tables themselves. But the apartment system in City Living is the most glaring example of this lack of freedom thus far in Sims 4, and it doesn’t bode well for the future of the game. At all.
So no matter how fun the apartments may be, it wasn’t worth it.
If I could figure out how to correctly pirate Sims 3 I wouldn’t even look back at the sims 4 :/
At one point, they did say they’re working with an engine that’s more limited than Sims 3. To this day, that’s strange to me. Why are you using an engine that’s weaker than its predecessor?
I think it’s more limited in what it can do but more powerful in what it does do. I have less lag in sims 4 than I ever did in sims 3 (except maybe the base game which was pretty boring anyway)
IMHO, the engine they’re using right now is better than TS3, I’d say more powerful than they can imagine. I will never believe that statement because that statement only says “we are unsure of what we’re trying to do, we’re still experimenting it”. So yeah, this problem is not about “it”, its about “them”.
I hope that we at least get to change the apartments they’ve already put in the game… I was really disappointed by this because I wanted to make the apartments from one of my favourite anime (Hidamari Sketch) and the building I live in as well… I’m taking a break from simming until I finish my exams this year at uni, hopefully by then there’ll be at least one more pack (that is something the community have asked for) and some updates to make the game more fun. This was my first Sims game and I’ve already invested too much time (and money) to go back and start a life in Sims 3. It was exciting in the beginning (despite the huge shock that there were no toddlers (lol, I should have ran to Sims 3 right at that point)) but now things are a bit tedious and definitely very restricting. There are loads of things and people I want to make, but I can’t 🙁
What’s most pathetic to me is at this point in the Sims franchise modders are coming up with better game changes and ideas then the actual Sims team that probably has state of the art equipment and millions of dollars behind them. In short give it a few months and I’m sure some genius modder is going to find a way around this and we will be placing apartments everywhere
Not kidding when I say I get more excited for mods than for most official content.
Island Paradise Diving Lots arent available to build on other worlds through normal ways too -q
But sims don’t live on diving lots.
the text covers any lot, habitable or not
Appartments could be maunually built in Sims 2 and sims 3. That’s the difference lmao
This is exactly the problem that has been growing since Get Together, City Living is ok but theres just so much limitation, why must they do this to us.
The less you listen to fans, the less popular your game will be. Seems like they seem intent on destroying everything The Sims franchise stands for. I’ve been playing The Sims since some of those devs were like 5. Outrageous.
Are we really surprised though? The Sim 4 has never yet been like the other games.. it has always been quite different no matter what new packs or expansions come out.
The Sims 4 is a big dissapointment. The can ruin every perfect expansion pack. The Sims 4 has a perfect graphics, but loading between visiting lots and apartments making it the worst The Sims game in the series after TS1. Hope they´ll do better in future EPs and be more careful with The Sims 5… 🙁
I honestly wouldn’t have a problem with the City Living restrictions if it were A GAME PACK and sold at that price. But for an expansion pack? You’ve got to be kidding me. So yeah, I totally agree.
at least it’s a playable game that you don’t get bored of after 10 minutes like ts3. the only way to make ts3 fun is to spend $80 on university, generations, pets, and seasons. that’s the same money as buying ts3 THREE TIMES.
Lol.. You obviously don’t know how to play The Sims 3 properly. Try reading a guide. Jesus
I enjoy City Living and Sims4 just like that, I don’t feel any need to create apartments everywhere this post is just another complainer’s whining if someone’s don’t like it there’s still sims3 or sims2 or even sims1 people can go back to
Really good write-up.
It… kind of inspired me: https://goo.gl/HSW100 🙂
(I think a verb is missing in this sentence though: “One tweet the fans hard.”)
Here we go. Every bad opinion about The Sims 4 always coming from Nate. Always Nate… LOL